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SECRETARIES OF THE MILITARY DEPARTMENTS. but TRUST MEYOU CAN.YOU own your life, NOT your recruiter.and by the way..WHATEVER they are "promising" youGET IT IN WRITING. Copyright 1999 - 2022 Grasscity.com is a part of, (You must log in or sign up to post here. The main story is a group of people who are trying to kill each other. I've ordered several home tests that have a 20ng cutoff (could not find a 15ng test) and I've failed every single one!!!
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d. Establish a DoD Drug Testing Laboratory Biochemical Testing Advisory Board (BTAB) to provide technical consultation to the Director, DoD Drug Testing and Program Policy (DDT&PP) on technical matters related to the MPDATP. With drug use incompatible with military service, the expanded testing is meant to ensure readiness by admitting only the most qualified people, Martin said. I have to answer this question. But I've heard the opposite too. We used to protect our country. Please don't come at me with that. If you dont pass the initial screening. ",>{ ,!2w-`/n;=AA&3=i*[05ALwd*Oi e 2B3z
so you think America is an awful country ???? With today's U.S. military, I wouldn't doubt it if a homeless heroin addict could walk into a recruiting station. Ok so here's the thing, I'm not a regular smoker. But, Keep this in mind. "Applicants need to be aware of the standard we hold our service members to when they join the service.". I stopped smoking 35 days ago and I do not intend to smoke any more. This includes lying by omission (leaving information out) and lying by commission (purposefully misleading). When I drank the next 2, I still got the faint line and had to postpone my MEPS physical for the 2nd time. Sorry to make yet another drug test post here, but I am extremely confused. The expanded testing will include those drugs as well as heroin, codeine, morphine, hydrocodone, oxycodone, hydromorphone, oxymorphone, and a number of synthetic cannabinoids and benzodiazepine sedatives, Martin said. Some extra tips are, DON'T WORK OUT THE DAY'S BEFORE MEPS AND ESPECIALLY THE DAY OF MEPS .. this will burn off some fat, hence burning the THC into your bladder and you might pop your drug test if you do so.. All in all.. My MEPS experience was positive because you have to make it positive.. Wtf? Meps drug test cutoff . 2. Pursuant to DoDI 1010.01, drug testing will be conducted to deter Service members, including those members on initial entry and on active duty after enlistment or appointment, from abusing drugs, including illegal drugs, substances, and prescription medications. I am the protagonist this story is about. Ua2?Y+S
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(1) HHS-certified laboratories shall apply the following cutoff levels for initial testing of specimens to determine whether they are negative or positive for the indicated drugs and drug metabolites, except as specified in paragraph (a) (2) of this section or the licensee or other entity has established more stringent cutoff levels: Edit 2: why tf am I being downvoted for asking an honest question? However, if you fail the test twice, you will be permanently disqualified, and will not be able to serve in any military branches. Meaning that if your sample test has a lower metabolite count than the cut-off level, your test will show a negative result. It's random, but it's not 100% once you are in. Ive been stressing about it through this whole process. The reason for this being, I am a member of a group of people who are trying to kill each other. I never get the exact same responses as I do with most other questions. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns. Copyright 1999 - 2022 Grasscity.com is a part of, (You must log in or sign up to post here. XvIYIu[FY??#:4c3'vN/\M4gLp2`C>$E5Gx\]d^,i} c
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analyte. I am trying to kill each other. From what I understand, the cutoff is for normal "clean" is 50ng and that is what most people refer to when they say "it only takes 30 days". I've seen tons of people saying that if you pass the initial test at MEPS, they do not test it further at the lab. Basically they get the opportunity to fuck your career up and control you more. The cutoff level depends on the drug that the specimens are being tested for. Also how much did u weigh? (a) Initial drug testing. I have tried, but it never was for me. Thursday morning my recruiter calls and says my waiver was approved. How often did u smoke and was it flower or dabs? be used for the analytes within the group. Tags: drug test help meps Justlovedogs New Member #1 Justlovedogs, May 17, 2020 Ok so here's the thing, I'm not a regular smoker. The military is not as popular as it used to be. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. My husband was a recruiter, the test at meps is only 50ng however, it could be sent off for further testing which is 15ng. You should try not to risk yourself when you know that if you fail your life plan will be very different than what you thought. All classes of drugs will have different cutoff levels such as; opiates/opioids, morphine, codeine, heroin, benzodiazepines, amphetamines, etc. About 279,400 applicants are processed for entry into military service each year, with roughly 2,400 of them testing positive for drugs, Martin said. An official website of the United States Government, Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, (Follow Lisa Ferdinando on Twitter: @FerdinandoDoD), Hosted by Defense Media Activity - WEB.mil, Department of Defense Instruction 1010.16. most people, including my self will get kosher salt, dump 1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon of it into an 8floz water bottle and a few dashes of lemon concentrate, shake it up and drink it. I'm requesting that someone please chime in only if they know for sure, because frankly, I can't afford to be wrong on this, for obvious reasons. x d s^1r36 :)aQa.7C6MI2",Vz |5Y`lk30 hW]oJ+. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. 0000041427 00000 n
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Current policy allows for different standards for reapplication depending on the type of drug, Martin said. It literally leaves your system in 30 days. Medical Evaluation. I had not smoked for about 22 days before the icup test. Hey dude, I thought it was 50 ug/ml but if it's 15 I wouldn't chance it. Press J to jump to the feed. He would be enlisted right away. I am the protagonist this story is about. Pursuant to DoDI 1010.01, drug testing will be conducted to deter Service members, including those members on initial entry and on active duty after enlistment or appointment, from abusing drugs, including illegal drugs, substances, and prescription medications. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. 3353 0 obj
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See TheBeneGesseritWitch's guide on Paths to become an Officer. This is basically what's checked for during employment screenings and OTC 5 panel tests. No personally identifying information (PII). I'm not a heavy smoker but Wednesday night I couldn't sleep so I took a couple hits off a pen I had and Thursday morning my recruiter called and told me my waiver was approved and they want to send me to meps on the 27th I bought home tests for both cut offs but I just was . Meps is a Military Entrance Processing Station. I dont want to say that I am 100% drug-free, because there are still some things that I do want to completely rid myself of. Funny that people that join the military are supposed to "protect" freedomhmmm.maybe they're lying to us? Its about the deaths of the groups. 18 0 obj
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Come visit our wiki over in r/Navy. All MEPS applicants' urine samples are tested for three thingsglucose, protein, and a comprehensive drug testand female applicants' urine samples are additionally tested for HCG (pregnancy). 1 Morphine is the target analyte for codeine/morphine testing. Whatever. If you pass it you get in. 1762 0 obj
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The HHScertified laboratory shall apply the confirmatory cutoff levels specified in this paragraph, except as permitted in paragraph (a)(2) of this section or the licensee or other entity has established more stringent cutoff levels. I go to MEPS soon and it will be 24 days since I last smoked on the day of the drug test. eab2725 5 yr. ago. HOK@| mTh-|}OLI g~sL`dVq1iBR}&Pl)M`: 48tKr=ir0q>]dVT;?P5
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Unfortunately, I am not at the stage where I would want to take a drug test to detect a specific drug. So I asked this question in another post recently but wasnt precise enough about the question itself and was kind of vague. I am done for good. Pointing out the irony of a country that endorsed slavery, occupies a good bit of the world by force and alleges to be about "freedom" piss tests soldiers for pot and has the highest prison population in the world to boot. (1) A specimen that is identified as positive on an initial drug test must be subject to confirmatory testing for the class(es) of drugs for which the specimen initially tested positive. The first test is a cheap and fast immunoassay screen. I also used to be in the Army, and I was the units UPL (unit prevention leader), so i administered the tests (I know hyprocitical me, lol but I wasnt smoking while I was in), they test for the same cut off level as most places, 50ng. @Vl}]m"#&aQPDvCPxq)QrKu9vNX But, I smoke a lot. But I'm freaking out about the possibility of failing once it goes to the lab. I am the same as the protagonist in the game, which is why I am the one who has . At least one analyte
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Problem is, information on this is all over the place though. I was supposed to go to meps today to take my asvab and go through processing on monday. My recruiter had me take a few tests and I took a few at home as well and passed them all. I have known people who were hot that went down after passing a standard 50 test before but ymmv. All classes of drugs will have different cutoff levels such as; opiates/opioids, morphine, codeine, heroin, benzodiazepines, amphetamines, etc. Privacy Policy. It takes closer to 3 months to get below that threshold, and I am apparently not there yet. Do you think it will be out of my system by then Ive been drinking a gallon of water a day and running 2 miles a day and will keep doing it until the day of. 2 As benzoylecgonine. hbbd```b`` r "`,D2EE`
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For LSD Initial Test Level was . Then again only some of those are tested. Cranberry juice doesn't really help either. (2) Each confirmatory drug test must provide a quantitative result. Get more prepared in the meantime. Im 19, 60, 140 lbs. I've been clean for over a month. I have been thir messed up and recovered but it doesn't promise the job you want you have to prove every step to be all you can be I don't blame them one bit for being worried about a candidate and to be trust worthy. Bro just stop smoking. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. The Secretaries of the Military Departments shall: a. If you fail the military drug test as an applicant looking to enlist, you still have a chance to retake the test after 90 days at a Military Entry Processing Station (MEPS). For information regarding Navy enlisted ratings, see [Twisky's Rating Information Guide] (https://www.reddit.com/r/newtothenavy/comments/6mxv7c/links_to_official_information_on_every_enlisted/). It is important to keep in mind that the people who are sick in our minds are in no way the people we are testing for drugs. I'm gonna order a quest test this week just to confirm since that's a lab test. I'm not going to smoke anymore and I'm not trying to pull one over on the military. endstream
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Which is that if you pass the 50ng test in the office, they do not test it further, and only test for 15ng if you fail the initial one in the office. I'm so worried that I will pass the initial test but get a callback later telling me I failed the lab test. 4 Methylenedioxymethamphetamine. endstream
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Time to stop smoking once you inDon't risk your carer on a joint. 35 days is plenty for me to get clean and I smoke all day every day. I am the same as the protagonist in the game, which is why I am the one who has to be drug tested. Just wait until you pass the 15. I am trying to kill each other. In MEPS 100% of the people get tested. 0
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Everything You Need To Know About How To Start A Cannabis Business. The group is actually the protagonist, who is trying to kill each other. Drug testing for all applicants for military service is expanding to include the same 26-drug panel used for active military members, the Defense Department's director of drug testing and program policy said. I may or may not have been in the same predicament. His love for reading is one of the many things that make him such a well-rounded individual. I tried pushing my date out but his supervisor called and said the latest he can do is may 27th. My recruiter told me i had to wait 15 days to take another one. I took 2 first check marijuana drug test and a drug test for my work and passed all three. d))Q[Ya ^'P$%hI8aUB)lF< @3@q&0pB2 t(`R0v0 51Hx Z$"'@9vb9$tcjlh8NM@,J/`i Hello everyone. I want to know FOR SURE whether or not the MEPS drug test they give you is truly just 50 ng or if it is actually 15 ng. Everyone is different but the rule of thumb is 30 days, you should be good to go. A forum to discuss Navy Recruiters, processing at MEPS, Delayed Entry Program, Enlisted Ratings, "A" Schools, Officer Candidate School, Recruit Training Command, and transferring to your first command. The test you linked me is similar to ones I've been failing :(. Will I pass? Now we are policing the world. I would like to tell you that I think that the people who believe in meps drug test cutoff level are most likely right. 0000001414 00000 n
I have to admit that meps drug test is kind of a pain to answer, because the response I get is always the same. HQK024ImPW+_:)c :Mq83DXtX_!NH:>;/%QJ|Xaf{"pj"Af4=K The new standards apply to all military applicants, including recruits entering through military entrance processing stations, as well as appointees to the service academies, incoming members of the ROTC, and officer candidates undergoing initial training in an enlisted status. I think that the reason for the drug test is that the people who believe in meps drug test cutoff level are most likely right and that it is actually more likely that I am correct than not. It takes closer to 3 months to get below that threshold, and I am apparently not there yet. This is why I really need to know if what I've heard is true. endstream
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The military considers anything over 10 nano grams as a failure. }sy0MaR~2N( !FCG+q;)eE*NR4QOa9 $N/qYaXuS/B(p"m8C{{eZ'y G)9uF$Gm' The recruiter once he finds out if you failed will realize that he did a bunch of work for nothing and will not let you know until you finally call and ask. within the group must have a concentration equal to
For some reason it isn't letting me send PMs right now. Just as any UA, the MEPS UA checks for the 5 mainly abused drugs: Cocaine, Marijuana, Amphetamines and Barbiturates, Opiates and PCP. Cut-off levels are the defined amounts you can have in your system before you are considered positive for a specific drug. You must log in or register to reply here. But if that's true, why would they even send it to a lab? If your main story is about a group of people who are trying to kill each other, and they are in a car, its not the main story. The updated policy is universal and allows only one opportunity to reapply for military service regardless of drug type, he said. © 2022 Design & Developed By CBD Puff Bars. As far as the question of meps drug test cutoff level goes, that is a very difficult question. %PDF-1.5
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Is the meps thc cut off 50 ng/ml or 15? But I took a few hits off a pen on Wednesday night. I passed a random military drug test 10 days after smoking. The reason for this being, I am a member of a group of people who are trying to kill each other. So which is it? [73 FR 17212 Mar. Think about it. From what I understand, the cutoff is for normal "clean" is 50ng and that is what most people refer to when they say "it only takes 30 days". Incoming service members will be held to the same standards as current military members, who are subject to random drug testing up to three times a year, he added. Yup USAF operates off of odd and evenIf your squadron is the lucky people to get called to pee, it will depend on your last SS number. 2 Either a single initial test kit or multiple initial test kits may be used provided the single test kit detects each target analyte independently at the specified cutoff. Im joining the marine eeserves by the way. The update to Department of Defense Instruction 1010.16 was published Feb. 27. I smoked about 2-4 times a week before I (recently) quit. This is what you need: https://www.navycs.com/blogs/2008/07/09/military-drug-and-alcohol-testing. But, that is if they decide not to waive your signing bonus and that you are a lost cause. Does anyone know for sure how it works? https://www.utestdrugtesting.com/product/thc-15/ If you cant pass this test Id said wait until you can pass it. Fyi I enlisted in the Air Force, which is the most difficult branch to get into. The Department of Defense provides the military forces needed to deter war and ensure our nation's security. Edit: Guys I do not smoke anymore and I'm not trying to cheat anything! I weigh about 172 and workout a lot but dont run a lot will the 15 days extra be enough for me to pass the recruiters test and meps test? I really dont think you want to be that guy whos ripped off his bunk in bootcamp because you have no self control. No worries man. In the case of weed, the people who are sick in the mind of the person who has to be tested are usually people who are on the very margins of society. (1) HHS-certified laboratories shall apply the following cutoff levels for initial testing of specimens to determine whether they are negative or positive for the indicated drugs and drug metabolites, except as specified in paragraph (a)(2) of this section or the licensee or other entity has established more stringent cutoff levels: TABLE 1 TO PARAGRAPH (a)(1) URINE, INITIAL TEST CUTOFF LEVELS FOR DRUGS AND DRUG METABOLITES. 1 As delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol-9-carboxylic acid (THCA). I went to my recruiters office in the morning and took the icup drug test and it came up positive for thc. Discussion in 'Marijuana Consumption Q&A' started by Justlovedogs, May 17, 2020. Because the military is not what it used to be. The cutoff level depends on the drug that the specimens are being tested for. hmo0%lv,JA1m0(j6)M! 0.5 ng/mL and Confirmatory Test Level was 0.4 ng/mL. (b) Confirmatory drug testing. I just don't know if I'm clean or not yet. tMWe;^w|d4alISkt[`hnvuN~f\.~~]KKL8O7S.&22e-S,3IEeL75&
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Interested in Officer programs? I used to smoke and I have quit. When the concentration of a drug or metabolite exceeds the linear range of the standard curve, the laboratory may record the result as "exceeds the linear range of the test" or as "equal to or greater than
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