Damage done. Bill may not have been perfect (who is), but his passion for firearms was solid and he was known as Americas Gunmaker, for good reasons. Rock River Arms guarantees this pistol will shoot 2.5-inch groups at 50 yards with 185-grain Federal Gold Medal Match semi-wadcutter ammo. They are more than welcome in southern Indiana. I agree. And dont give me this they have changed nonsense. For those who missed it, we broke the story late Thursday evening. How is he still employed? thats the one ive just stopped considering. I just bought a DDM4V11 in January at an unheard of, low price of $1369. Well do our part in other states to support you. I see only three plausible reasons: 1) Greed millions are never enough. This should put some perspective on how important this issue is to many of us. Not a smart move in a buyers market, or any really. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Ive refused to buy S&W products since then, with the sole exception of a Model 640 Pro .357 Magnum, which lacks the damned thing. I hear you on that Ruger. Having this blow up the day before a brand-new product launch at the NRA convention is basically the exact opposite of fortuitous timings for Springfield. THEY MUST PARISH AND EVERYONE WHO DOESNT BACK ME IM GONNA CURSE AT AND BE MEAN TO!!! The rifle comes fully loaded with a Rock River two-stage AR-10-style rifles, the Rock River Arms LAR-8 stands alone. A Rock River two-stage match trigger or even a 3-pound single-stage trigger would be a recommended upgrade. Rock River Arms has built a reputation as a quality maker of modern sporting rifles and offers an extremely diverse list of models and options. This would appear to be financial suicide by Springfield. Under no circumstances would they sell me any magazines. RRA and Springfield can suck my dong, they will never get a penny from me. This story is libel. What would you have done differently if you ran SA or RRA with a workforce that is similarly trapped in soviet Illinois and depends on your company staying open and profitable to keep their jobs? He supported this legislation, (by not opposing it) that LIMITS CIVILIANS TO 9 FIREARM TRANSFERS PER YEAR!!!! I bought my first Rock Aluminum Mags Just Starting At $14.00 At Rock River Arms. WebProduct Description. We want our dealers and our valued customers to know we wont ever do anything like this again., We fully support the Second Amendment and stand by it. I hope that it will bankrupt them, for it appears to be the only way these gun companies will learned to to alienate their comsumers. If theres a silver lining here, this law should be shot down by the courts. I really wanted a trp and a cqb but oh well will get something from another manufacturer. I bought a RRA rifle back in 2012. They must be put out of business for their treachery. Probably hard now to sell it for half what you paid if at all. Good grip, low muzzle flip/recoil, ambi controls, no mag safety and very easy to strip/reassemble. Last trip to the range, ran a couple hundred rounds of all flavors through it without an FTE/FTF. So many good options, why buy from jackasses. WebRock River Arms Two Stage Match Trigger Kit4.5-5 lbThe RRA match AR trigger kit is designed for AR-15 and AR-10 Mil-Spec lower receivers with .154 trigger and hammer pins. If they are both single stage, they will basically feel the same. I just wish there was a good M14 clone I could get. Yuge. Bullshit. So, if youre looking for a cheap AR-15, Rock With an MSRP of $860, it is a capable rifle at great price point. Hence why, even with Democrats holding a super-majority in both our House and Senate, and a rabidly anti-gun Governor, we held the line even post-Newtown. Rugers stated public position was screw every other gun manufacturer and screw the American gun owners, as long as Ruger makes it and we want government contracts! Same here. Looked at a custom SA 1911 before purchasing an STI. Springfield Armory *deserves* to be pitchforked and torched. Some mightsay IFMAs change of heart might not have made a definitive difference. I put 3.5k rounds through it before a malfunction. Make the bill political kryptonite. The rights of citizens that theyve agreed to negotiate away will NEVER be restored. And rra. That alone is enough to put them out of business. In fairness, Sprin gfield Arm ory isnt the only one to co-opt a name that it had no connection to (cough-Henry-cough). If discounted to $0, maybe. Huh? They are good weapons but I Cant help but feel betrayed when I look at them now. WebSo What Happened At Rock River Arms & Springfield Armory??? Rock solid performer. You can bet our sport; Henry wouldnt have gone along with that. Magpul moved to WY. The vast majority of companies can do what they want to, but have have to insist that firearms companies fight for the 2nd EVEN WHEN ITS NOT IN THEIR COMPLETE SELF INTEREST TO DO SO. chamber also differ from the 5.56 mm NATO chamber Better sell that RRA while you still can. We need to defend our legacy from the likes of them !! My inventory of six XD pistols two 1911 .45s and two M 1As will be up for sale tommorow. Ruger sold us out on the 94 AWB and it is well documented. They pulled the same crap for the Clinton ban, Amen almost bought a springfield I agree with you to hell with them sig glock ruger for me here on out. Keller dropped IFMAs opposition, providing cover for a couple of wavering Senators to vote for the bill. And by the way, sarcastically calling people badasses loses its effect when you get so butthurt by an article that you start calling the author a pu$$y. Obviously Springfield and others have not learned this lesson and are going down the same road. Ive gotten good deals and free shipping on Handguards from CTD. Of course there will be others that benefit as well. This new model is the latest in the growing line of rifles and pistols based on the RRAGE platform. As far as Im concerned, Smith and Wesson are still shit given they operate in communist MA and they should have packed up an left after what that bitch Maura Healey did last year. This Modern Sporting Rifle is built with a carbine-length gas system with a low-profile gas black to efficiently redirect propellant gases. It is the fault of the people in Illinois. With support like that, who needs Everytown? 84283412342. So how is screwing your loyal customer base and flipping them the bird to their faces sound business policy? An XD and its in .40? FREE SHIPPING on orders over $90! Its like saying Saturn is really, really big, and huge, too! Your opinion and yourre entitled to it and welcome to voice it here, though it seems you prefer that others not voice theirs if they disagree with you. The future for firearms manufacturers is less than certain due to falling demand and moving a 50year old corporation like SA out of state is a huge expenditure. Whats the feedback at the NRA show running like? Indiana has a good climate for manufacturers of firearms, and I wouldnt mind seeing a few more ffls open up shop near me in Northwest Indiana, either. About three years ago, RRAs Elite Operator hit the market sporting features designed specifically for professionals. Springfield and Rock River Illinois Sell-Out: Picking up the SA created it). Allexcept for gun owners and the non-big box store gun dealers who have to live and work in the Land of Lincoln. The Springfield name is going to carry an odor, no matter how good a particular firearm might be. To whom will they sell? These two companies MUST be boycotted into bankruptcy. Perhaps a company thought they could pull a fast one and nobody would notice. Dont own a Springfield anything and now never will. Includes larger .1555 MSRP: $111.99 $75.81. Come to find out the guy had paid triple for the supply to be trucked in so people could have them. I know I wont be buying anything else from springfield armory. The company makes a wide variety of weapons, including AR-15 and M16 rifles, as well as pistols, shotguns, and bolt-action rifles. Sure enough, the bill passed theSenate by a single vote. Who the hell made this business decision and have they been fired yet? Springfield Armory today is a strong supporter of everything 2A. Both Ruger and S&W learned from their mistakes, I do not know if these two can. More recently, they do this big Saint countdown/reveal that just ends up being Another Entry-Level AR-15, just what the market needed. Ive spoken with a couple of bigger dealers in Illinois in the past 24 hours. had I known earlier, I might have bought a few more colt revolvers..god I wish Id known. Have been eyeballing the SA Saint the last couple weeks. You see once you jump in bed with the marketing types and throw millions at image you quickly discover that your rudder fell off long ago and now youre not sure what you stand forif anything. 3/18/2013. You have entered an incorrect email address! Did Springfield get shouted down at their own party? Two companies provide the bulk of the funding for IFMA:Springfield Armory and Rock River Arms. I have an SA Profesional that I really like and was strongly considering a Custom Carry, but this turn of events gives me a real pause to that idea. RRA should be punished too. If youre looking begin your 3-Gun or short-stage PRS competition endeavors, the Rock River Arms RRAGE 2G may be your ticket. Smith and Wessons deal with the Klinton regime also brought us the infamous and deplorable hillary hole internal lock. WebThis is the perfet mag for your LAR-15, and will work great in any AR-15 platform rifle. Divide & conquer. Now for 2022, the company ups the game for hunters with the introduction of the All-Terrain Hunter (ATH) , a mid-length rifle that stands tall in the field of AR-platform hunting rifles. Thankfully, many of the downstate Dems are staunchly pro-gun. The LAR-15 X-Series X-1 Rifle in .223/5.56mm from Rock River Arms is available at a manufacturer suggested retail price of $1,450.00 and $1,500.00, depending on the stock and color option (Black and Tan). Cant beat that! Rock River Arms has a reputation for making high quality AR-15s, but they also have a reputation for being expensive. Their entire C Suite should resign and they need to prove themselves. I hope they go out of business and leave the dishonesty to our opponents. Maybe thats the case in many instances, but its not like the IFMA has thousands of members. I just bought an EMP 3-inch. Dennis Reeses statement to TTAGon IFMAs deal was insulting. Beretta kicked Maryland to the curb for their ridiculous gun laws. Which would help with elimination if in the future. Tony- IFMA is SAs and RRAs lobbying firm(as opposed to an existing firm that SA hired. Built on the companys RRAGE upper and lower receiver and handguard assemblies, the pistol delivers a sleek profile. We will support our Illinois brethren and NOT purchase anything from Springfield Armory or RRA. As a collector of modern handguns, I was very interested in Springfields new XD-E and was hoping to find one as soon as they became available until all of this political posturing took place in Illinois (I live in neighboring Indiana). The NRA would likely throw you and your fliers in the dumpster. cant hornor us people gun rights I say F THEM ALL. Today, we have nearly one dozen gun control groups working in Illinois. If these dam gun man. I think they and Illinois deserve each other and I hope they both end up on the wrong end of history. IFMAs Keller testified in March at the Illinois Senate Judiciary committee of his willingness to consider dropping the lobbying groupsopposition to the bill if his clients were exempted. Now Im off to call Cabelas and inform them of SAs treachery and why i will not buy from them as long as they carry SA product, http://www.cabelas.com/catalog/search.cmd?recordsPerPage=18&No=0&N=0&nl=true&Ntk=AllProducts&Ntt=Springfield+Armory&search=Search. So I have to ask. Like other gun-manufacturers Springfield can move its operations to a gun-friendly state. I hate to say this Tony, but you are completely clueless about lobbyists. The company is based in Genesco Illinois, near Chicago. Until we destroy that party America will continue to be destroyed from within. But they were happy to allow their lobbyist to finagle them a carve out. This attention to accuracy is especially evident in Rock Rivers new model, the Advanced Tactical Hunter V2 (ATH V2). As if they want to implode. Find Senators and Representatives in close political battles last election and get their previously defeated opponents on board. Springfield isnt doing anything that the vast majority of companies do, protecting their bottom line. Most dont buy a gun thinking about selling it down the road, bit it happens. and thats where the idea of 10 round limit for magazines originated,right from the mouth of Bill Ruger. Apparently, John Smith isnt an advocate of the constitution or specifically the second amendment. Ive heard of them canceling orders. We do not need traitors in our midst. Its about the same price as an M1A. An xdm9 and a 1911 loaded. * How to order a firearm: See The Guide. Ive bought 4 guns in the last year and a half since they opened their store. Brownells, Midway, Primary arms, Rainer, Wing Tactical, and SG Ammo are my favorite online retailers. As far as the trigger, if the RRA has the 2-stage trigger, it is much better than the stag. I have to say this really makes me mad. Rock River Arms has a reputation for making high quality AR-15s, but they also have a reputation for being expensive. Yes I am planning on moving. WebRock River Arms AR15 Uppers for Sale at Joe Bob Outfitters! I wont name them, but the sales people at certain companies worked hard (and maybe even fudged some dates on paperwork) to make sure that I got my magazines before the deadline in the law hit. IF WE LOSE RRA BECAUSE OF THIS HYSTERICAL REACTION, thats a blow to liberty. Local politicians always give tax incentives to move. WebRock River Arms RAGE AR-15 Rifle 5.56 Nato / .223 Rem, 16" BBL, 6 Position Stock, M-LOK Free Float Rail, 30 Round, LAR-15M - Model DS1850 Carbine. The S&W deal with Clinton was made on March 17, 2000 and the company was sold for $45 million ($15 million cash and $30 million in acquired debt) on May 11, 2001 That doesnt change whats actually been proven that was three years ago. Rock River Arms is an American manufacturer of firearms that was founded in 1996. IRS records have also been found that shows Reese is on the board of IFMA. That was just a small part of the problem. Whats more, Larsonseems genuinely appalled by what happened. What flavor is it, and how much do you want? In the former case its a matter of not really understanding the client and in the latter its a case of assuming that its better to ask for forgiveness than to beg for permission. Cant this fool see how much this is going to hes going to hurt his own pocketbook for this tiny edge? My favorites in their calibers, cherished in my collections. I look at their site and the parts were available from the same warehouses at a higher price. AND started planning to move out of the state. We reserve the right to adjust product prices as dictated by the market.. We there the courts kill the law or the governor vetoes it, nothing changes the sellout by Springfield. Well, said. Ive never had better customer service with any other business. I know people who continue to not buy Ruger even after his kids made up for the old mans traitorous ways. Beretta (ex-MD) and Remington (ex-NY) make your statements look foolish. Mostly out of states with onerous laws and heavy taxation. Robert, and we, the honest and dedicated advocates of the 2A and gun owners stand by TTAG in this. How did the unveiling of the new pistol go? Customer service beyond any reproach. But I struggle with the NEVER AGAIN WILL I EVER SUPPORT THIS COMPANY. If signed into law, the bill his lobbyist declined to oppose will drive many dealers out of business with its onerous and expensive restrictions and requirements. No guilt trip on my hip. Who Makes Rock River Arms? This Rock River PCC shows itself to be a well-engineered carbine ready to work (and look good doing it). I would move EVERYTHING 25 miles West to Davenport Iowa. Any I have to ask WHY? Not a nice odor. business or not your customers are your lively hood. If Rauner is serious about re-election he will veto this flaming sack of shite. Enjoy shooting it, and the second one if you buy one. You can not name another firearms manufacture today that has done more than Ruger to support the NRA, the 2A and firearms owners. Ruget supported the ban on high capacity (ie standard capacity) mags as it favored their line of sporting rifles like the mini-14. When a big box store is competitive on price with the local gun shop, you know there is a problem. So Rock River Arms story is complete crap and a bald faced LIE on the order of, I did not have sex with that women. Whats more, Larson seems genuinely appalled by what happened. But do they double down on their error (Target) or put things into place that not only fix the error but make them new and better than ever. Rock Rivers AR builds are superb, and they come in at a price thats quite reasonable (starting at $1,585). Instead, we were undercut by aself-serving supposed ally. Who Makes Rock River Arms? Most places, its still over $1500. You cannot exempt large businesses from onerous regulations that you impose on small businesses. They use forged parts and at least the Chinese are honest to let you know where the parts come from (China) whereas with Springfield it is a toss-up where the parts are made (I heard from Taiwan, Canada, even the Czech Republic!!). It weighs 10.2 pounds empty and is 43.5 inches long. All have been accurate and reliable. If you are willing to do 9mm, check out an Honor Guard. Its called doing business. I am sure you do not mean Nissan or Beretta both of which picked up and moved to Tennessee for their headquarters (as well as many other companies). The idea being that this bill is so toxic that Senators passing it or the Governor signing it will be drawn into a wide-ranging financial and criminal probe. No sane company would move in to Illinois unless it was to curry political favor in Chicago as Boeing moving their HQ (no production) did. If only there was a place to run-and-gun in or near NWI. Ruger didnt compromise, they wrote the AWA and betrayed every American gun owner in a most serious way. Only Ruger has in the past few years regularly donated millions to the NRA. Thats bad, dont get me wrong. He didnt say, Hey, we screwed up. Folks like me are willing to kill for them. After the event I hadnt seen a shipping notification. Damn This is turning into that mob with the torches looking for Frankenstein. And theyre telling their friends. Its GENESEO and its still about 3 hours from Chicago. Henry and Ruger get my votes for Americas Gunmakers. Thanks a bunch pricks! In my collection i have a M1A, a Socom 16, a XDM in 45 and a XDmod2 in 9mm. I read somewhere that there is a city named Springfield in almost every state in the Union. They have no ethics. January 2023. One dealer told me hes pulling Springfield product from his shelves to give his salespeople a break from carping customers. (Im a 30 yr Vet). Since you researched IFMA you also noticed that the $100K was the ONLY money they had in their account, donated by only two companies, SAI and RRA. You shouldve made that decision because it is a piece of garbage, not because of this hysterical article. Sellouts. But Illinois only has about 2.1m gun owners of 12m population thats fewer by a significant margin than the number of hard-core urban Dems in Chicago alone. There are millions of people in the US who no longer think that its enough to fight and die for these rights. We beat back a similar bill last year. Good luck with that RRA. This companys name is Mudd. I will now buy another LAR-8 in case you idiots force RRA out of business. But theyve already heard from their customers about the IFMA sell-out. Good for them. Its their prerogative. Or cameras? Just to be clear, they are using the name of the original company of Springfield, but they are not located in the city of Springfield. Dicks/Field & Stream, Troy, Hexmag, RRA, Springfield Arms, Target, CTD, et al, are making it hard on themselves.They are alienating their demographic. And then maybe. Do you know how much the dealer bought them for? They spent weeks trying to gin up interest in the XD-E introduction with their mysterious ads, and it was all for nothing. They mustve been channeling Bill Ruger. If theres something worse than a fanboy, its a fanboy fudd. When you sell high dollar items like firearms, it is really, really, unbelievably stupid, to piss off your customer base at rebate time. They also make an Original Henry Rifle. Search Ruger anti gun. The LWRC, DD and BCM are ALL over $1300. It was a great decision, I have never looked back. Rock River Arms RRAGE Carbine LAR-15 with ATN Day/Night scope. No offense meant, I was just pointing out that Springfield Armory has no connection to the city of Springfield Illinois. They hate freedom and absolutely love all powerful Government. That being said, even if we do, Springfield is done as a company. is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders. They are actively editing social media but refuse to address the issue. Gun owners have good memories, it will take a year but Springfield like Target will notice their mistake on their Revenue numbers and blame the weather, the president, insert excuse here. 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