During this Census count, a huge number of Americans falsely claimed to have I am an in country vet and 59 years old, your article wasvery informative. Burkett is the author of Stolen Valor: How the Vietnam Generation Was Robbed of its Heroes and its History, which was published in 1998 and received widespread acclaim. You dont have parades for soldiers coming home from a war they lost.. Look up the webstite. One last ramble. Did not know his name but I couldnt bring myself to walk by his A/O after this happened. We can only pray that the current generation of young men and women who are the current targets of a cottage-industry of professionals who thrive on making them all impaired will fare better than we did. god bless america,and our veterans. i just found out that they will not cover navy personal that didnt go ashore & do have agent orange in there blood . Poison, who cares? I knew how to get more than enough for everything I needed. Dear Friends abd fellow vets, At a time when I was paying $300 a credit, my entire educational benefit was $126. And when it came to finding a job, he was met with thinly veiled disgust and discrimination from law firms upon learning he was a Vietnam infantry veteran. Wished I knew who implanted it. How old would the youngest Vietnam vet be now? The figure that floats around alot and that Vet Centers sometimes mention is about 111,ooo from 1973 to 1997. 61% of those killed were younger than twenty one and 11,465 of those killed were younger than twenty years of age. Why are Vietnam vets dying so fast? None of that, he says, prepared me for the reception at home upon our return.. http://edschultz.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=63544, MY MINISTRY: http://web.mac.com/rthorne2/Site/TRUTH_REVEALED_MINISTRY.html, De Nomie, William D. Sgt. The number of Vietnam veterans affected by the chemical Agent Orange is astonishing. And I believe the qualifier thereis that many were claiming to be combatvets when in reality the ratio of logistics to grunts was about 9:1 therefore the large number suggested was true Vietnam Veterans, just not combat vets. Finally after 10 months found a job,human resources person said that they didnot mind hiring Vietnam Veterans .as long as I was not drug addict or involved in any war attrocities. Age: 78. The program is for federal, state and local communities, Veterans' organizations and other nongovernmental organizations. A group of amputee Vietnam veterans talk together at a hospital in San Francisco, California, 1967. 18 years old I would learn about civilian life 46 months later. Quick Answer: What Can I Learn From A Veteran? Because they will be OLD and it their turn. Looking for people who served in the 134th assault helicopter co. from 1971 to 1972. THERS IS ONLY ONE KIND OF COMBAT VET..ONEWHOWAS IN COMBAT. does not receiving a cib mean im not a combat vet? I am 62, and rated 100% with Agent Orange medical issues. Working on a story for my veterans paper at my website and found your blog on this subject. Im a Life member of VVA, DAV and AMVETs; spend almost two years in Vet Nam as Medic with 145th Avn Btn AND 11th ARVN Airborne Brigade. The reporting found that about 700 veterans with cholangiocarcinoma have been seen by the VA in the past 15 years. Ill never ware a baseball cap again ever! I appreciate the respect of thank you because that was something I never received when I came home. I would like to see the source for this estimate that there are only 850,000 Vietnam Veterans still alive. I went fucking ballistic. Why are my bok choy leaves turning yellow? I may have some choice words to express as well. Just finished writing a book about an incident in Vietnam that tells a story about how twisted and asymmetric that war was. In popular culture, the stereotype of the broken, homeless Vietnam vet began to take hold thanks to films like The Deer Hunter (1978), Coming Home (1978) and First Blood (1982). I am ex medic one-oh-worst airborne div. (Reuters Health) - Higher than average death rates among Vietnam War veterans with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) suggest that combat trauma may still be affecting veterans' health even decades after the war, according to a new study. More than nine million Americans served from Nov. 1, 1955, to May 15, 1975. For myself I always felt that the millions of men who were in uniform before me returned to civilian life, I could do the same, when I went into the army, I was I was a Medic with the 93rd Evac. Yes some do fabricate stuff. (fact check note by Mike Brewer. The Obituaries in the Veteran Magazine published by Vietnam Veterans of America, a highly credible organization, have a long list of birthdays between 1946-50. (Reuters Health) - Higher than average death rates among Vietnam War veterans with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) suggest that combat trauma may still be affecting veterans' health even decades after the war, according to a new study. As for suicides, this is mostly a myth seconday to a VA study in the 1970s that included all Vietnam eta veterans. Veterans Fight PTSD and Injuries With Sailing, More Than 100 Sickened in Arizona Cryptosporidium Parasite Outbreak. These are indeed some very sobering statistics. As for the CAR, that might be another story. In any case, we who served our country continue to die on a daily basisin greater and greater numbers. At this rate there will be only a few of us alive in 2015. Roughly 300-thousand veterans have died from Agent Orange exposure -- that's almost five times as many as the 58-thousand who died in combat. to indicate what they want but I do have to believe that these may be close 800k approx left, sort of sobering uh. I get to testify and present them with the story of a 20 y/o medic carrying dead and wounded around for 14 months in country. Thanks Jim, that was very thorough. By way of the SHADS project, we are still handling claims of radiation exposure in WWll and those who went to ABC school in the Navy; Atomic, Biological, Chemical Warfare training on ships in the early 1960s. Why are Vietnam vets dying so fast? Combat Medic Why are Vietnam vets dying so fast? Since 9/11, patriotic gestures, like wearing flag pins and saying, Thank you for your service, have become common, as more troops are sent to Iraq and Afghanistan. Why are Vietnam vets dying so fast? Like I always said .we died in Nam , just havent fallen over yet.Too bad all the imposters dont die just as quick or quicker. How many Vietnam vets are dying each day? I do know this. the word from the rear was we werent authorized cib. Div. we better make it soon . Pete, be sure to ask your DAV guy if he thinks you have exhausted the Reconsideration process. Did you know that is the day Ho Chi Minh died? . You must be a U.S. citizen or resident alien. from actual combat vets but dont know that for a fact in any case that does seem rather high. one thing they have mentioned is verified stressors. I take ware hearing aids and to this day Im always vigilant when Im out always The VA study, along with a call by Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer of New York for broader research into liver flukes and cancer-stricken veterans, began after The Associated Press raised the issue in a story last year. Can you put dead flowers in food waste bin? 1/3rd of all the U.S. Vets who served in VietNam ?!?!? In the United States 17-year-olds may join the armed forces with the written agreement of parents. I guess its a compliment to us allthat all these wannabees are prentnding to be vets but I still get pizzed at them when I figure them out after a few beers in a bar or whatever. Now I find the same scenario occurring with this AO fiasco. Starting to live with zest at 60 aint so bad. Can I cut apples the night before for apple pie? What was the average age of a US combat soldier in Vietnam? where did this nunber come from, the people I am dealing with look closely at source material and I would really like to use this. Sorry about the delay here in answering. Compared to the U. S. population, the mortality rates of Veterans are higher at older ages, and the life expectancy of Veterans are estimated to be 0.7-0.9 life-years shorter for males, and to be 1.2-1.3 life-years shorter for female at age 25, 45, and 65. i cam back from nam in july of 70 all my decorations and cbi badge and never heard or spit upon, i think a lot of this is bullshit!!! Likely 15 to 20 percent of the total who served after the buildup in 1965 were born before the end of World War II. society. Good luck and take care -Jim. that 6 months after I left everybody rotated back to the states, say reminds me of The average man who fought in World War II was 26 years of age. Anyone can use no. Its mostly the exact opposite. I have never had or felt the same camaradrie I experienced serving two tours M c Clurg, Ernest H. Some of it came from a VFW Post. I hope you all know that if you were in country and have diabetes you are basically automatically qualified for soem degree of compensation their is a presumptive connection as there is with various cancers. You must be at least 17 years old (17-year-old applicants require parental consent). I was never a prisner but could relate to some of the tings the men talked about.I can also relate to the tinngs you talk about,, Any time Im around a crowd (large or small) I like to be where I can keep up w/everything going on around meUse to have panic attacks really bad if I had to be in publicWith help from VA mental health and medication Im now a lot better off.. Last name: There is always the notable distinction between Era Vets and Combat Veterans. The latter group does in fact have an uncommonly high mortality rate, that includes approximately 115, ooo suicides between 1969 and 1989. second tour. Where is the museum and website referred to as the source of the figure 850,000 living Vietnam veterans? Still listen to 1960s rocknroll and those songs take me back to the Mekong Delta I too have found the Veterans War Museum to be a bit odd at times. American soldiers returning home from Vietnam often faced scorn as the war they had fought in became increasingly unpopular. Lets all prove the stats wrong. If true, 390 VN vets die a day. Greensburg, Indiana, U.S. Garwood was transferred to North Vietnam in 1969, and according to reports, he was freed in 1973 along with the other American prisoners of war as part of the Paris Peace Accords. looking around. How do you say let's keep in touch professionally? They quickly filed paperwork with the Department of Veterans Affairs, or VA, for disability payments. Hope that helps. I heard a pop and at that time guys used to mess with pin flairs so when I was awaken by a popping sound I thought it was a pin flair going off. Jim is 100% PTSD, but stable and happily married with 2 children. Your email address will not be published. We saved a lot of people and seen some bad stuff. Three weeks ago I suffered by 4th stroke, each attributed to ISD. A friend of mine who is an in-country veteran asked me to look into the topic of how many Vietnam veterans are still alive. The VA rejected 80 percent of the requests, but decisions often appeared to be haphazard or contradictory, depending on what desks they landed on, the AP found. i mention the verified stressers, as i wonder if that could help in the decision on a cib. Welcome Home John. If not mustard gas, then agent orange, the the Gulf syndrome. He gets cremated and tossed into the ocean with no fanfare. For a decade, as one person was shipped off to fight, another was returning. i have been 100% dav. Sen Jim Webb when he was Secretary of the Navy wrote an excellent article how the media, and in some cases the goverment gave birth to the myth that all Nam vets were in some way impaired or Rambos waiting to happen. Garwood is sometimes identified as the last documented American prisoner of war from the Vietnam War. Cheers. Another who is 85,from Colorado and was on the USS Rhona in Tunisia in the early stages of WWll who filed his claim at age 80 for PTSD. How many Vietnam War vets are left? During the Vietnam War, a total of 9,087,000 military people were on active service, with over 2,709,000 Americans serving in Vietnam. He was among those who got the call. In response to several comments, Ive never heard of anyone other than a grunt in Vietnam being eligible for the CIB. It can take decades for symptoms to appear. I am not sure anyone will ever quantify the exact number of suicides. Just realized that this is the day Ho Chi Minh died! We had it nice compared to the line Medics. They can assist a grateful nation in thanking and honoring Vietnam Veterans and their families. About 30 percent of Vietnam vets have had PTSD in their lifetime, the highest rate among veteran groups from all eras, according to the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs' National Center for PTSD. My room mate was nick named Budda in the 134th. He was 15 years old and had been in-country nearly one month. Mike you write well and to get to core issues. Mike Baughman holds a 1971 photo of himself in his U.S. Army uniform at his home in Danville, California on Aug. 2, 2016. It stopped short of urging them to get ultrasounds or other tests, saying there was currently no evidence the vets had higher infection rates than the general population. ps Ive been trying for 17 years now. HISTORY reviews and updates its content regularly to ensure it is complete and accurate. Scientific Wild Ass Guess. But no one spoke of the incident, nor was the media permitted to cover it as WE did not have missiles yet and did not want to alarm the public. Nearly three out of four of those cases were also denied, even though the government posted a warning on its website this year saying veterans who ate raw or undercooked freshwater fish while in Vietnam might be at risk. We built houches in 1967. OK I also am wary of statistics thrown out on the web, being a former Marine and a Viet Nam Vet I looked up the numbers from one of the sources indicated.. found that the Naval Health Institute who crunches no. Call me next week sometime, and I will help you with the stressor stuff. Mike why is gods name would all these people claim to have went to that septic tank they call vietnam? I feel confident they will take care of you now. A lot of them give me that blank stare like, 'You've got what?'". He lived for three days after that incident. How the hell can anyone answer this question? More over 8 million people served their country in some capacity during the Vietnam War, and those veterans who are still alive now are often in their 60s and 70s. IE 11 is not supported. Jim and I flew from Da Nang, to Kadena Okinawa, and then after an attempt to fly out of Kadena in a Flying Tiger Line plane one of the 4 engines quit in mid-air, and we made an emergency landing back at Kadena, we stayed overnight and flew out in the same repaired airplane on to Travis A.F. Of the 50 blood samples submitted, more than 20 percent came back positive or bordering positive for liver fluke antibodies, said Sung-Tae Hong, the tropical medicine specialist who carried out the tests at Seoul National University in South Korea. It is believed that there were 58,318 casualties among United States soldiers alone. age approximated to be 54 years old., If youre alive and reading this, how does it feel to be among the last If this jogs someones memory than please write on this blog so we can perhaps chat sometime. V.F.W. tell everyone that was their to go & get a blood test to check for agent orange 1st comes diabetes then prostate cancer thats what a dr told me yesterday. It is anticipated that the overall number of veterans would fall from 20.0 million in the year 2017 to 13.6 million in the year 2037. Do you have the form to apply? I found out he was on the plane behind me after roll call satin the rain and mud When the diagnosis came, both Pete and Kate were sure they knew the cause: Pete's exposure to the chemical defoliant Agent Orange during his time as a helicopter crew chief in Vietnam. jeff clutter. that were projected in 2000 to 2010? 2015if any.. of Veterans Affairs that was the only fullfilling job I ever had. If true, 390 VN vets die a day so in 2,190 days from today, 1 Im 66 years old, going in to the hospital for the 4th time for more stents. Back in the States, Langenus quickly discovered the GI benefits available for Vietnam veterans were almost nonexistent. While living in New York, he developed symptoms of malariaa tropical disease fairly uncommon in the concrete jungleyet he was denied VA health care because he didnt display those symptoms in Vietnam. (Reuters Health) - Higher than average death rates among Vietnam War veterans with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) suggest that combat trauma may still be affecting veterans' health even decades after the war, according to a new study. Meanwhile, all my friends were crying that they didnt even have money for transportation.cool news However the main reason for me using an AION kinah guide was to get the millions I needed to buy the best PvP gear at the brokers. (Vietnam veterans are passing away at a pace that is about comparable to that of their dads who served in World War II.) DANang In my military career, I personaly wrote CIB support letters for over 20 non-11B soldiers whom I knew had spent more than 180 days in a forward deployed posture and were under combat conditions, 6 receiving purple hearts none received the CIB. thanks rich. statistics that are at once depressing yet in a larger sense should give you a HUGE SENSE OF PRIDE. he was back home in Texas he made it. We met at the replacement battlalion hearing our names at roll call, couldnt believe we were meeting again I am a Marine Vietnam Vet (6/67-7/68) & a MarineDesert Shield/Storm Vet. my email is, micpatrickbrewer@gmail.com., mike: fact is, my factory closed last summer, so i went and applied for some va disabilty, to help until i get fully retired. served in-country . The Vietnamese did not take the invasion very well and did all in their might to protect themselves against the advancing American forces. What seeds should I start indoors in February. he quickly pinned me up against the wall with a knife to my throat. The Vietnam War lasted from 1964-1973the longest war in American history. 1 killed in the Nam, 2 dead by their own hand. Had to fight the VA for years , Diabetes , neropathony and heart attack 14 years ago. Originating from New York City, Tom Selleck. I remember tet that was no picnic for rear echelon, and being in a chopper,those m60s werent there for show. What is the average age of a Vietnam veteran today? i think anyone that went to vietnam should go to a va hospital & get checked out. They were not necessarily looking for a parade, but they were certainly looking for basic human support and help in readjusting to civilian life after this really brutal war.. My buddy Jim was stationed with MAG-11. In my mind they were throwing out a SWAG. Why are Vietnam War veterans so crazy? Im going to put that review officer in my shoes as a 20 y/o medic. As of the year 2015, around 1,600 of those individuals were still considered unaccounted for. The Defense POW/MIA Accounting Agency (DPAA), which is part of the United States Department of Defense, reports that there were a total of 687 American prisoners of war who survived the Vietnam War. Median age is 68 years. Any numbers on this would be greatly appreciated. Check with your local VA claims agent. I came back from nam in January of 70.Got out September remember being called a baby killer,monster etc ,was not spit on ,but had I been would have given back a proper response.When I came back was wearing my medals and CIB etc. The ages of those who served in Vietnam varied anywhere from 55 to 97 years old. I am asking for a Decision Review Officer Hearing. I am 70 and suffer from several health problems with a10% disability; all I believe attributed to my service in Vietnam or the Gulf War. Some pilots, career men and members of elite units may have been much older. http://501medmen.bizhosting.com have my Library and collection of movies, my garage and my dogs and cats. of "I was in a state of shock," he said. Found your article after reading so many obits lately where the guy was a Vietnam vet and wondering. Might any of our readers speculate about why this may be? returned from Vietnam , the clock has been ticking. So it is not so much the numbers as the age at which Vietnam Veterans pass on to glory. I had 6 close buddies in Vietnam. We who served America do not deserve this treatment. at the time i wasnt concerned, though, some of the guys working as fos, who were planning on a military career, were trying to get cibs. What is the average lifespan of a veteran? There is no way that 69% of those who served are now dead, as is easily noted by the unit reunions that occur and the personal circle of other vets than many vets have. and counseling even before they get out of the service and checks nearly immediately upon discharge in the event of a disability. You should document that to the Patient Advocate Office. I work with veterans all the time and thought you might find it interesting (if you didnt know already) that any Vietman Vet who served in country and who develops Parkinsons Disease, Lou Gehrigs disease, or a number of other illnesses is assumed tohave been exposed to Agent Orange and AUTOMATICALLY qualfies for Service Connected Disability. Racial and Ethnic Groups 0 2 4 6 8 10 12 14 16 18 20 2020 2025 2030 2035 2040 Millions Men Women. How long did a soldier have to serve in Vietnam? Jerry Engel/New York Post Archives/NYP Holdings, Inc./Getty Images, The society really was ill-prepared to give these guys what they deserved, says Christian Appy, professor of History at the University of Massachusetts Amherst and author of three books on Vietnam. Punchbowl National Cemetery of the Pacific is called. Jun. He and I just emailed each other on Jan. 2, 2011. (Reuters Health) - Higher than average death rates among VietnamWar veterans with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) suggest that combat trauma may still be affecting veterans' health even decades after the war, according to a new study. 24 We returned home to an uncertain future with no skills needed in the civilian world, we would make our way the best we could in this Be careful of Appeals. The Vietnam Veterans Memorial was dedicated on November 10 . I showed this to a non vet to see if I was not clear (PTSD) and he was shocked at the number of Nam Vets who were passing away. Age: 75. Nice of them. At your next response, should you be so kind, I will tell you of a career U.S. Navy hero who died alone, broke, unsung in a Trailer park in Oregon. Twice a week we compile our most fascinating features and deliver them straight to you. He graduated from Notre Dame prior to being commissioned, and after his service returned to law school to cash in his educational benefits. The AO stuff is just so hard to tolerate as it still invades so many of us. Food for thought. Ages range from 97 to 55 years old (born between 1918 and 1960). Local boards called men classified 1-A, 18-1/2 through 25 years old, oldest first. His name is Ray Alvarado and you can Google his name or USS Rhona and read a wild story. Bill Ray/Time & Life Pictures/Getty Images, The Vietnam War claimed the lives of more than 58,000 American service members and wounded more than 150,000. Born: 01/29/1945. Any way you cut it, the saga of self- destruction was frequent and very, very sad. This figure far exceeded the expected suicide ratio when balanced by demographics and applied to ONLY those that had served in country. Ischemic heart problems. just to crunch no. When my wife and I go to a restaurant I always ask for a booth or table by the wall, so I can see whats going on around me. i got sent to viet nam in the spring of 71 and came back in the spring of 72. my mos was 82c20, surveyor. or the Central Highlands and operations in between. They all understand. What a joke. I will check on this for you. I am slowly dying from AO and my country has once again tried to spit on me. For those who believe that the stories of being spit on and being called baby killers and other injustices is crap than you are living in a dream world. Thank you. Criteria for Eligibility Mike 520-360-6933. Check out the VA web-site and your local Vet Center. Locality: Detroit, in the state of Michigan. Your email address will not be published. Return to country Jun 1969-Apr 1970 I Field Forces Vietnam. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. "I've personally dealt with muscle loss, neuropathy and atrial fibrillation. It wasnt a bad idea at all, as Ive learned everything on the Kinah making aspect in this game. i had no idea i could apply for a cib, but would like to. Born: 09/15/1946. Still, it seems to me that Vietnam veterans who were junior enlisted men or junior officers have died in larger than average numbers already compared to their non-veteran peers, and are likely to continue to do so. The Department of Veterans Affairs this spring commissioned a small pilot study to look into the link between liver flukes ingested through raw or undercooked fish and a rare bile duct cancer. Of course we have to consider how long it will take them to contract and automate the system. How did American soldiers treat the Vietnamese? So my main man at the DAV said were not going to appeal. As a combat veteran of Marine Corps having served in Vietnam, I have always known that we seem to have a mortality clock that ticks a bit faster than then that of the standard for insurance actuaries. For an optimal experience visit our site on another browser. I spent nearly thirty years as an officer and still teach them. As of this date The American War Library estimates that approximately 610,000 Americans who served on land in Vietnam or in the air over Vietnam between 1954 and 1975 are alive today. Theres one, just like the ones that we used, painted red, hanging from the ceiling at the Pima Air Museum. I have written letters for soldiers I personally witnessed in combat situations and almost all were evaluated and received long over-due compensation. That in a sense is a violation of Federal law and should be attacked by those with means to do so. Then compare that report to the Tripler Psychologist report of a (get this) 5 minute interview. Less than half of them submitted claims for service-related benefits, mostly because they were not aware of a possible connection to Vietnam. "None of them have even heard of it before. Their is a ton of it online everywhere. The men who were drafted served and did their jobs well they were all soldiers. Please post the SOURCE of this statistic. lucky to be a Vietnam veteran alive.. in only 6 years.. good info on your post, keep up the good work! And for the men who served in Vietnam and survived unspeakable horrors, coming home offered its own kind of trauma. This was partly due to the logistics of the never-ending conflict. He said the approval came right after his doctor wrote a letter saying his bile duct cancer was "more likely than not" caused by liver flukes from the uncooked fish he and his unit in Vietnam ate when they ran out of rations in the jungle. The figures reported here (and the same text is widely seen) are all correct with one major exception. 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