That is, a windmill could spin until it falls apart and never generate as much energy as was invested in building it. Apparently Eneco can make the wind blow to order.). In late 2015, the Dutch government announced its goal to power the country's electric trains entirely with wind power by 2018. A little more than a tenth of all electricity consumed in the Netherlands comes from wind power, some of which is imported. People making this claim are simply propagandists. France has an even bigger problem with energy poverty even though her supposedly cheaper power. Plus, it turns out that about half the electricity NS uses to power its rail system comes from outside of the Netherlands. Founded in 2004, Produced at least 12 models at 250, 500, 750, 900 and 2000kW. NS and Eneco first announced their plan of a wind-powered railway in 2015 in order to drastically slash train ride emissions. But it really doesnt matter which countries the Finnish wind power passes through on its way to the Netherlands. Everybody should buy only 100% RE. As of January 1, all trains in the Netherlands now run entirely on wind power (that is to say electricity generated by wind farms, not masts and sails). The city also gets about a third of its power from a large biomass plant. Bach supplies data for Belgium, which should be a close analogy, and Figure 4 shows Belgian wind generation for September 2014: Figure 4: Belgian wind generation, September 2014, With an installed capacity of around 1850MW in this month the overall wind capacity factor was 11% and there were a number of occasions on which wind generation fell effectively to zero for hours on end. In fact, an investigation by Energy Matters finds that the electrified portion of NS mainly runs on electricity derived from coal and natural gas. The question is: how long must a windmill generate energy before it creates more energy than it took to build it? The farm was dismantled after 22 years service in 2016. So even if this claim were true, it would require exponentially more windmills and/or solar panels to cover any significant portion of the continental United States. The US city of Philadelphia has taken regenerative braking to a new level though. This type of fuel is considered to be climate-neutral, as it does not cause CO2 emissions. But you seem happy to gloss over the fact that Germanys cheap power comes from coal, nuclear and Russian gas. What happens where there is insufficient wind for the required duration to powerup the batteries? "Since 1 January, 100% of our trains are running on wind energy," said NS spokesman, Ton . [2] The Dutch are trying to meet the EU-set target of producing 14% of total energy use from renewable sources by 2020, and 16% by 2023. NS would only care for the environment as a PR stunt, not for the betterment of the planet. And half of Japan, poor devils. Illustration I guess I could have found something cheaper still if Id looked hard enough. https://ecommons.cornell.edu/bitstream/handle/1813/5329/Bothi_BEEThesis.pdf;sequence=1, When wind power is fed into a grid it becomes inextricably mixed with all the vibrating electrons from other generation sources to the point where there is no way of knowing where any power taken from the grid came from.. It doesnt add up, I would say about Euro 47 million is big money especially when you consider it`s for nothing.. Do the Netherlands trains really run on http://elering.ee/cross-border-physical-flows/, http://ast.lv/eng/power_system/current_situation_in_power_system/state_of_power_system/, http://www.litgrid.eu/index.php/sistemos-duomenys/79, Antidotes were hard to find this week as one cheering message after another was debunked only Positive News was buoyant | C 3000: antidote to gloom, International Energy Agency Electricity Production Statistics for OECD Countries 2014 2016 | Blogging about energy and transitioning to clean energy, Drone Strike on Saudi Arabia Knocks out 5% of Global Oil Supplies, Grazing, desertification and climate change. Eneco has made a point . The turbines supply enough energy to power 2.4 million households. [13] The wind farm demonstrates the growth in scale in wind power as between 1987 and 1991 it was the largest of its kind in Europe with 50 turbines and a total nameplate capacity of 15 MW. Hughes did write that some windmills might not recoup their energy-construction costs, but he didn't assert, as the meme implied, that no windmills will ever generate as much energy as was invested in building them. There are very little poor people in Germany., http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/high-costs-and-errors-of-german-transition-to-renewable-energy-a-920288.html, The Spiegel FUD wont cut it. Overall, the Netherlands has over 2,000 wind turbines spread across the country. It is reportedly due to the early completion of some of these farms that enabled the 100% wind target to be reached one year in advance. However, everyone must have a contract to be authorized to draw energy from the grid; otherwise it would be stealing. Since 2017 , 100% of Dutch electric trains have been powered by wind energy. Its standard accounting practice. Credit: Wikimedia Commons, Ad Meskens. I am told Biogas is not actually allowed in our pipeline system. Two of the models are still under production. NS claims 100% wind power because it has a contract with various wind farms to produce enough energy to power its rail system, but this is just an accounting transaction. As of the 1st of January, 2017, electric Dutch trains are now completely powered by wind energy, according to NS, the national railway company. That would force other trains to halt. Web. Dutch trains now run on green, renewable energy (Image courtesy of Groenetrain/NS/Eneco). Therefore, entities enter into power purchase agreements, PPAs, with various other entities that produce, or resell energy, such as electric utilities. Furthermore, both solar panels and wind turbines are capable of functioning under cold . The Netherlands, aka Windmill Country, is now operating 100 percent of its electric trains with wind energy. remarkably consists of wind turbines with just 2 blades, manufactured by Nedwind, the 18 turbines have a combined nominal power of 18 MW.[30]. More than 12% of the Netherland's electricity is generated from renewable sources, mainly biomass and waste (5% of the total) and wind (7% of the total). Roger, that map isn`t quite updated. One wind turbine running for an hour can power a train for 120 miles, the companies said. I would take it, then, that you are not among the poor and elderly who DO give a fig about money? Started operations in 1979. Even the two Dutch wind farms with which NS contracts directly for wind power, Noordoostpolder and Luchterduinen, are tied generally to the Dutch grid and not tied directly into the NS rail system. Nor should you you probably get shaved 20% faster than me! At this point, total Dutch wind power generation is about 7.4 billion kWh annually. Other peoples Money doesnt matter to you.. wrong! it MATTERS to those like heavyweather all savvy investors who have installed PV on their rooftops, PV which funnels 29 cEuro/kWh (on average) for each useless and counter-productive kWh which they dump on the network sums charged on the electricity bill of all the OTHER germans, of course! There are very little poor people in Germany. The 600,000 Dutch that travel daily by train will now do so thanks purely to wind energy, with the national rail operator Nederlandse Spoorwegen (NS) announcing that 100 percent of its. [16], In March 2018 the Dutch government announced that it will build between 2023 and 2030 several new windfarms with a total installed capacity of 7 gigawatt. The electrons that run the electrified portion of the NS system come from many sources, including wind, but also from coal, natural gas, and nuclear. An all-electric heating is much easier to implement, few properly dimensioned wires and cheap heaters, while a gas heater needs specific know-how and is much more capital-intensive. The national railway company, NS, said that its renewables target had been met a year earlier than planned. They have been working with Eneco, a sustainable energy supplier operating in the Netherlands, for several years. However, it seems officials have been able to beat that goal by an entire year. Yes, they are called dwarves, or possibly hobbits. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, Press J to jump to the feed. Fossil fuel-fired power plants produced over 80% of the electricity in the Netherlands, mainly natural gas (42%) and coal (35%). Good for Nederlandse Spoorwegen. So, the fact that they can now reliably produce it from wind is big news. The energy required to power trains in the Netherlands comes from newly built wind farms in the Netherlands as well as in Belgium and Finland. The European high voltage grid connects Finland with Sweden but doesnt go through the Baltic States. The largest wind farm in the Netherlands is Noordoostpolder with a capacity of 429 MW. A little more than a tenth of all electricity consumed in the Netherlands comes from wind power, some of which is imported. An extra live rail that has direct current flowing through it at all times. Initially, trains in the Netherlands were set to run entirely on renewable energy by 2018. RE fans should understand that present mainstream RE technologies ( mostly PV and wind) require considerable real estate and in our small island one cannot travel very far without having a wind farm in view. Blunt, Elizabeth. As of the first of January this year, all public transport trains are being powered by renewable energy, namely from wind power. Burlingtons biggest source of electricity is hydropower imported from across the region. French people are bricoleurs they like to build their own house, thanks to the fact that if it has a surface below 175 m2 you dont need to go through an architect, you can do your own building plan. Its 50Hz in the Netherlands and most of the planet apart from (mainly) the US, Canada and half of Latin America. However, the government wants 40% of the total electricity used in 2030 in the Netherlands to be supplied by wind. The 129 MW Eneco Luchterduinen wind farm is located 23km off the coast between Zandvoort and Noordwijk cities in the Netherlands. But you can arrange for a proxy burn of biogas in another state, say Colorado, and buy the rights to say you consumed it. As a retired telecomms engineer Im glad not to be repeatedly telling folks from the US that T1 is not a global standard any more! . The Eneco Luchterduinen wind farm was officially opened in September 2015 and is a 50/50 joint venture between Dutch energy company Eneco and Japan's Mitsubishi corporation. Just fit smart controls where their systems draw power from the grid. I Did Not Say Wind Energy is 'Idiot Power.'" [62], Installed land-based wind capacity (MW) by. These systems are found on underground trains in Los Angeles, Auckland and Buenos Aires, among others. Google will allegedly power all its operations with renewable energy this year by doing exactly the same thing. As shown in the table below installed capacity is dominantly fossil fuel, with natural gas making up 61% of total installed capacity and coal 15%. New wind farm deployment is based on the SER agreement that describes a plan for five years of tendering 700 MW per year. For offshore wind a new system of tendering is under development. Train tickets for international journeys can be purchased from NS International. Belgium and Finland. The problem with the high costs for heating in France is the really poor quality of the dwellings, their poor insulating and cheap quality whatever means of heating one uses its literally money thrown away. http://www.euanmearns.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/interconnectors.png. NS claims 100% wind power because it has a contract with various wind farms to produce enough energy to power its rail system, but this is just an accounting transaction, writes author Roger Andrews. [10] [11] [12], 2015 (my emphasis). And how does NS justify this lesser claim? [37] Other large wind farms are located in Delfzijl-zuid (43 MW),[30] Lelystad (46 MW), Terneuzen, (Koegorspolder, 44 MW), and Biddinghuizen (WP Kubbeweg, 34 MW). The evidence speaks for itself. There is a DC interconnector (LitPol, 500 MW) between Lithuania and Poland now, and in addition the NordBalt (DC 700 MW) between Sweden and Lithuania. Good for saving valuable hydrocarbons for something more useful than burning them, and they really can supply all my electricity 24/7 that way. The energy comes from new wind farms in the Netherlands and surrounding countries - and it's a lot. Because Eneco, which contracts to supply NS with wind power, gets a Guarantee of Origin from the exporter under which the exporter confirms that the power came from wind and assigns the rights to it to NS. Opinions expressed by Forbes Contributors are their own. The Netherland's national railway company, NS, has announced that all of its electric passenger trains are now 100 percent powered by wind energy. Do the claims about Netherlands trains also require further explanation? As Enecos account manager Michel Kerkhof pointed out, the key objective is to avoid procuring energy from the limited existing number of sustainable energy projects in the Netherlands, thus promoting renewable growth both domestically and Europe-wide., This partnership ensures that new investments can be made in even newer wind farms, which will increase the share of renewable energy, Kerkhof continued. [1] [2] [7] The project cost $272 million and is cooperatively owned by Royal Dutch Shell and the Dutch utility company Nuon. You are not really concerned about the energy bills of the poor. Reply to Rod above went to the wrong place and left off the smiley after Albania. I struggled to find reliable figures to back that up, so I didnt want to repeat the claim here. The wholesale price of GOs seems to be a mere 0.36/MWh or so. If thats the case, it marks a major turning point in the story of renewables. Some of the nations that supply power to NS such as Germany, Belgium, and Finland, do generate wind power, but only in modest amounts. Physically it makes no difference as you say, but as HeavyWeather pointed out above my money is now going to fund reactors not Energiewende, so Im happy. Thats true, of course. [18], In the first week of December 2016, all 150 turbines of the new 600 MW Gemini offshore windfarm began producing power, and the project is expected to be fully commissioned by mid 2017. The Dutch and other people draw energy from the European grid, which has been generated by many sources. The virtue signalling fools at NS might then undertsand the impact of intermittent supplies. 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Built 1992 this nearshore wind farm had just 4 Nedwind 500 KW turbines based 1km to shore. The comment about T1s was meant to be a wry tomayto vs tomarto thing which probably didnt work as an explanation of why I get pedantic. Because theyre just one part of a wider grid, most train operators use electricity from a mix of different sources coal-fired generators, nuclear plants, hydropower or, in the case of Nederlandse Spoorwegen, exclusively from wind turbines. According to DutchNews.nl, there's currently a total of 2,200 wind turbines across the country. So we in fact reached our goal a year earlier than planned, said Boon, adding that an increase in the number of wind farms across the country and off the coast of the Netherlands had helped NS achieve its aim. So technically, the government is not paying for the FITs.. I see the logic behind the options for supply that can be taken, but how can any householder take a contract for 100% wind power when often this is not available, certainly if a large number opt for green power. They arent directly powered by wind. Heating with electricity is their homemade problem that escalates bills for the poor with no alternative. [3], In March 2022, the Dutch government announced that by 2030 offshore wind was to become the Netherlands' biggest power source, aiming at 21 GW of installed capacity.[4]. Rail networks source this electricity from the grid, and just like for our homes, its transmitted to them via high-voltage lines. The Dutch government is looking to ramp up the nation's share of renewable energy from 4 percent in 2014 to 16 percent in 2023. At a good wind site, the energy payback day could be in three years or less; in a poor location, energy payback may be never. The Netherlands national railway company, NS, has announced all of its electric passenger trains (not the freight trains) are now 100% powered by wind energy. The company is also looking for a dramatic reduction in greenhouse gas emissions. [5] In 2020 wind power provided 11.54% of the Dutch electricity generation (see table above) while solar power provided an additional 7.25% for a combined 18.79% - easily meeting the target without taking other renewable sources into account, even though the target for onshore wind capacity was not met. I do not know why this is, maybe a different ethane ratio? Do Dutch trains run on Wind? If it was based on the former there would a strong possibility that these companies could be oversubscribed with customers who may not receive true renewable energy when the wind does not blow. Claims that Dutch trains running entirely on wind power are way off track. Railway Gazette reports that NS records about 1.2 million passenger-journeys per day, with an annual energy requirement for 1.2 billion kWh. Only 18,9 Twh were bought in Norway, the rest sold abroad. Were these conditions to repeat themselves now, and if NSs trains were powered exclusively by wind, they would almost certainly come to a halt. But its a funny read. Ah, so the train really runs on smoke & mirrors. So, 1) I didnt write the text, 2) the text itself is selectively quoted, and 3) the argument it makes, taken in isolation, is meaningless. Thus, all of NE has the same energy mix, i.e., there is not one mix for VT, another for NH, or one mix for the Netherlands, another for Germany. Snopes did not find evidence that Germany was experiencing a "total collapse" in wind and solar energy. Only a small fraction of the power delivered to its trains actually comes from wind. The historical land of windmills is leading . Most wind power is produced in the province of Flevoland. (Data from ENTSO-E ): No details on the current generation mix are readily available, but as shown in Figure 1 gas and coal supplied around 80% of the Netherlands electricity between 2000 and 2013 and its likely that this percentage still applies. This is hardly enough to make a big deal about. This was 2015 data, so the wind fraction seems to have gone up from 7% to 10% but coal is really powering those trains at least 3x more than wind hey, coal powered trains, where have I heard that before? Your membership is the foundation of our sustainability and resilience. They say that this makes them the first rail company in the world that runs it fleet entirely on renewable energy. The Dutch railways network (NS) started using wind energy generated by the turbines owned by electric company Eneco two years ago when they signed a ten-year agreement. Active 2020. This energy is directly traceable to individual wind farms, because we use the GVO European Certification System. Consumer unions help by auctioning for grouped members. https://askjaenergy.com/2015/03/23/does-apple-not-want-truly-green-data-centers/. I paid 1100 Euros/year for a 150 m2 house, at 1000 m altitude on the French alps, heating, hot water, everything included. 90/month for the typical 3 person household. However, this quotation, which comes from an essay written by earth scientist David Hughes, was cherry-picked and presented out of context to create a deliberately misleading version of what the author actually said. Wind farmsboth onshore and offshoreare regarded as a key component in renewable energy policy and an important tool in mitigating the risks of climate change. [19] In July 2016, the first two stages of offshore wind farm development for a combined 700 MegaWatt capacity in a water area near Borssele was awarded to DONG Energy at a price of 7.27 Euro cent per kilowatt hour for 15 years. What the Netherlands gets when it imports it is the energy mix on the German grid. [21], In November 2011, the Dutch government decided to no longer fund 6 billion per year to maintain subsidized wind kWh at 0.18. Only a small fraction of the power delivered to its trains actually comes from wind.. In an anything goes era of news and social media, its not often that a post jumps off the page. Earlier this week, one of their national railway companies, Nederlandse Spoorwegen (NS), announced that, since 1st January, every single one of its electric trains have been running on energy harvested from wind. It seems small compared with our renewables subsidies in the UK, which are of the order fo 150-450 times as big per MWh. That means electrons traveling across international borders to help power the NS railway system come in some amount from wind power, but in much larger amounts from non-wind sources. How Dutch and German train and bus firms are taking British taxpayers for a ride, Solar panel researchers investigate powering trains by bypassing grid, Original reporting and incisive analysis, direct from the Guardian every morning. The best of EcoWatch, right in your inbox. "Since 1 January, 100% of our trains are running on wind energy," said NS spokesman,. And no facts will ever get in the way of a true believer . And meanwhile the Netherlands electrified railways continue to be powered dominantly by fossil fuel electricity. If not, Im sure their stranded customers would be happy to explain it to them. In this way, the Dutch railways aim to reduce the greatest negative environmental impact caused by CO2 in such a way that its demand actually contributes to the sustainable power generation in the Netherlands and Europe.. However, early successes in rolling out the clean energy program . Even the two Dutch wind farms with which NS contracts directly for wind power, Noordoostpolder and Luchterduinen, are tied generally to the Dutch grid and not tied directly into the NS rail system. But none of this wind power is directly connected to the NS rail system. If you would like to know more, click here. quite an amount of work youve done there, It doesnt add up ! An Eneco and NS joint website. I have caught people several times in their lectures saying they are burning biogas on a campus, and they always are sheepish when I call them out on it, because they know they are fibbing. So pick your choice 22 May 2018. All renewable energy gets paid the FIT out of the so-called SDE budget. In total there were 3,004 MW of onshore wind power at the end of 2015. TL;DR Dutch trains run on natural gas and coal power, not wind power. Started operations 2009. So while wind contributes about 7% to the Netherlands electricity generation it contributes about 11% to the countrys electricity consumption. Active 2016. Rather they act like a component in an electric circuit. It`s a scam. The best of EcoWatch right in your inbox. You still technically get your power from the electric company, but you pay little to nothing for it because you are supplying them electricity. The farm consists of 43 Vestas V112 turbines of 3 MW capacity each. http://www.sciencealert.com/all-electric-trains-in-the-netherlands-are-now-100-powered-by-wind-energy. As Hughes observed, his point was that "the concept of net energy is crucial if we want to find a policy that will see us through the Energy Sustainability Dilemma," not that windmills should be eschewed for using up more energy than they ever create. An extra live rail that has direct current flowing through it at times... 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